Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Will be curious to see what happens with
    -03 CF Schmid, on loan his Dutch 2nd division club continues to be on track for Eredivisie promotion. What does Koln do? Does he go up with them???
    -03 CF Kastanaras, on loan, his 3rd Liga club Ulm are currently in 1st place and on track for 2BL Promotion. Does he go back to Stuttgart, go reloan or perm transfer to Ulm if promoted to 2BL???

    these 2 could very well end up in relevant pros next season without having to do anything but reloan or sign up perm.


    just noticed on another note, that 3rd Liga Saarbrucken are currently 1 game in hand, a win there and they jump to 3rd place aka 2BL Promotion Playoff Spot, so they aren't far. Would be interesting if Jahn and Saarbrucken manage to get 2BL Promotion then this means we get 2 new youth GKs in 2BL next season with Jahn=02-Gebhardt and Saarbrucken=02-Schreiber without need of either of them to do anything but stay put at their clubs.

    seriously could be huge if we get 5 02-03 GKs in Relevant Pros next season. Door for more is open as others are knocking on door. Not only that but this would push 3/3 of the most promising 02 GKs to becoming #1s in Relevant Pros, as Atubolu, Schreiber, Gebhardt were always most promising 02 GKs.

    but even then we could still end up with 5 as Jahn seem on track for direct promotion and Schreiber is linked with 2BL transfer anyways. Although issue with any transfer nothing says will be #1 but direct promotion=100% would be #1.
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL Adeyemi 2.0.
    Adeyemi was kicked out of Bayern for attitude.

    said it before but Unterhaching is a club FULL of rejects from that Sud/Sudwest region.


    He had to go to the inn to wash the dishes
    SpVgg Unterhaching: Everything revolves around Gibson Adu: The 16-year-old celebrates his first third division goal with his teammate Manuel Stiefler and club mascot Fonsi.

    Two years ago, Gibson Adu was kicked out of Mainz 05's youth department for disciplinary reasons. Haching took him in, President Schwabl looked after him - now the 16-year-old is the youngest goalscorer in the third division's history.

    This Thursday Manfred Schwabl turns 58 years old. Very few men in their fifties are able to enjoy the joys of fatherhood again, but Schwabl only recently became a father, so to speak, for the third time: He was given the legal guardianship of the young footballer Gibson Nana Adu, who set a new record at the weekend . With his goal in SpVgg Unterhaching's 4-1 win against VfB Lübeck, Adu is now the youngest goalscorer in the history of the third division - at 16 years and 61 days, he surpassed the previous record holder David Alaba (17 years, two months and five days). The German national players Youssoufa Moukoko (Dortmund) and Jamal Musiala (Bayern) follow in third and fourth place on the hit list.

    It is the current highlight of this young man's sporting development, which seemed to be over two years ago: Adu, whose parents come from Ghana, was playing in the youth team of FSV Mainz 05 in his hometown, but those responsible were patient at the end. The young man repeatedly exhibited indiscipline and his school performance was very poor. And then he was involved in physical arguments - as it later turned out, he had defended himself against racist insults. “He has a short fuse,” says Schwabl.

    In Mainz they were at their wits' end, but they didn't want to abandon their exceptional talent to its fate. The head of the youth training center there, Volker Kersting, remembered the case of Karim Adeyemi, who had not made it to FC Bayern as a child before those responsible in Unterhaching got him on the road to success. Kersting contacted Manfred Schwabl. "He then explained to me literally: 'I'm telling you the truth: no one can get this player,'" says Schwabl, whose ambition was then awakened. He drove to Mainz to meet with Adu's family. And took Karim Adeyemi's father with him as a key witness. The two were able to convince the family to let the boy move to Munich.

    President Schwabl helped with the move and even attended parents' evenings at the school
    Schwabl personally helped with the move: "I took the ICE train to Munich with Gibson and his travel bags." He then put him up with a host family in the same house where Adeyemi had already lived. Schwabl took over communication with the school and even attended parents' evenings, whereupon his son Markus protested that the senior hadn't even done that for him and his sister.

    Whenever Adu neglected his tasks again, Schwabl would turn the thumbscrews: "If you don't give the boys food, then they'll order from Lieferando. But you can grab them with football," says Schwabl. So he threatened to take him out of training and sometimes sent him to the tavern to wash dishes. Adu promptly returned to compulsory schooling. But because the teenager was still difficult to control, Schwabl struggled with his decision to bring him to the sports park; he even considered sending him back to his family in Mainz. But Schwabl's wife and daughter intervened: "They both said I couldn't do that and that I should give him a chance," says the Hachinger president.

    The 16-year-old is now completing a voluntary social year with the Bavarian State Sports Association (BLSV) and wants to start an apprenticeship at the SpVgg office in the new year. If he still plays in Unterhaching - the boy's development this season has obviously already aroused interest. On his third division debut in mid-February in Bielefeld, three days after his 16th birthday, he had a penalty after being substituted late on taken out. Since then he has come on as a substitute in seven of eight third division games. Coach Marc Unterberger praised Adu on Saturday: "He played a very good game, but he has to keep working." It's not about records, but about carefully introducing him to the level of men's football. "He's getting more and more playing time now, this time it was half an hour. Gibson is just an example of all the young players who can make it with us." President Schwabl adds: "If things go well with Gibson, that would underline the Hachinger way even more."

    The boss had told the youngster on Saturday before he was substituted that he should please score "a goal for his mom", because Adu's mother had come from Mainz for the first time since the transfer to watch her son play. The goal was promptly achieved, and after the final whistle the two were on the pitch surrounded by young fans and emotionally celebrated Gibson's first goal.

    The question remains whether the 16-year-old, whose contract with SpVgg is valid until 2026, will be retained after the enormous surge in popularity caused by the record goal in the summer. “It would definitely be good for him to spend another year maturing in his usual environment,” says Schwabl, who emphasizes: “We’re not forcing anything.” On the other hand, “the mechanisms of the industry” are known and people would be willing to talk if there was a corresponding offer. The legal guardian Schwabl would then essentially give his new son up for adoption.
    https://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/g...er&utm_medium=twitterbot&utm_campaign=6556833
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    a lot of them are playbale in more than 1 position though.

    list is basically a 04-onwards one, LOL I only recognize like half the list. A lot of them are clearly like 07-onwards.
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    So from what I gather
    -Picture #2=Lennart Karl
    -Picture #3=Noah Darvich
    -Picture #5=Tom Bischof...........debatable that he's AM, a lot see him at CM
    -Picture #6=Paul Wanner
    -Picture #7=Brajan Gruda
    -Picture #10=Fadi Zarqelain...........yeah ex Hertha, LOL and he's a 2009, LOL.
    -Picture #11=Francis Onyeka

    few a feel like I recognize but feels like their names are lost to me.

    is Licina really not listed? Surprising since BayernTalente is a fanboy of his.

    in any case there is much more than these 12 names too. AM/W in younger age groups=packed of potential.

    #futureisbright
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #24756 Ger90, Apr 20, 2024
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2024
    1BL
    -04 LB Ullrich plays his 3rd cap of season as 90+2 min sub for Gladbach. Could have played more if not for injury during season. One would expect could/should get his 1st XI at some point towards end of season. LOL if Ullrich fully breakthrough would be yet another emerging LB at relevant pros!!!!
    -damn shame, 02 CF Beier almost scored beatiful header but hit post........

    2BL
    -04 M P.Muller played his 3rd cap as 20 min sub, looking for his 2nd XI for Furth in 1-0 L. While 05 AM/W Pfaffenrot played his 4th cap as 9 min sub and 05 AM/W Popp played his 6th cap. Both Pfaffenrot+Popp looking for 1st XI of season, should come soon enough aka when the promotion race is 100% over....although basically already is.
    -05 AM/W Wanner (on loan) hit the post yesterday. Believe its his 2nd or 3rd post of season, would already be 7-8 goals in 2BL if not for that. Hopefully is in 1BL next season!!!!

    -05 M Suso (FD) back on bench for team after his recent injury. While 05 CB Schlicke (Furth) seems to be more regular bencher in recent times. Suso looking for 1st XI while Schlicke looking for 2BL debut.

    RL (only few remarks)
    -05 CF Weiper back from long term injury last weekend almost scored brace for Mainz II. Today assisted the lone goal in trashing 4-1 L. Lets hope sooon enough back with 1st team in 1BL. Mainz getting close to leaving relegation zone too.
    -interesting to point out that 05 M Ulrich at Stuttgart II has 9 assists this season which puts him at 2nd most assists in entire RL Sudwest too. Players tied or close behind him have ALL are much older, played more games/mins than him and ALL of them playing attacking roles and the 1 person ahead has played 7 games more, is in his 30s and is an attacker.

    imagine getting 10 goals/assists in 18 games with 13 XIs while mostly playing CM role and coming off like 2 months injured.

    been said that Dahoud might be unfit so Ulrich who was training with 1st team midweek might make his 1BL season bench debut tomorrow. If he does, would be looking for his 2nd career 1BL cap. Its clear that RL is a waste of time for him, either he breakthrough 1st team or goes on loan. More RL is waste of time and this is his 1st RL season too, never played that level last season as he was either U19 or 1st team.


    -02 CF Harres bags brace and now jumps to 21 goals for season in RL. He's all but likely gonna end up RL Sud/Sudwest top scorer come end of season. Which would be the 1st Adult top scorer for any 02-onwards CF. Sure its just RL but its a start and not easy to win RL top scorers when sooo many are career players at that level so competition for top scorers is guys in their mid-20s-30s and who are 100% used to the league. 04 CF Sanne is still contender to bag RL Nord top scorer although 3 goals behind 1st place.
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    LOL, as I Said Dortmund U19 already sealed Championship spot and what does club do the players still play in U19 instead of playing II in 3rd Liga.

    even when Belge Duranville is getting match practice he plays Dortmund U19 over II. Like club is aware of the integration in II issue.

    not sure I get logic, II is safe at this point. Is the plan to integrate next season? And then next season they will be like we can't start season playing kids and usually Dortmund II in 3rd Liga do better job with integration in 2nd half of season when table position is overall settled and not before....cringe.

    but in any case the Brunner, Moerstedt (some fitness issues in March-April), Pejcinovic=3/3 wasting time in U19 as its too easy for all of them.

    so why do they still play this shit?
    Because
    -Dortmund U19 aka Brunner=Championship SFs Qualfied
    -Hoffenheim U19 aka Moerstedt=on track to securing Champiosnhip SF Spot, its basically only missing formality at this point...............Hoffenheim U19 also playing DFB Junioren Cup Finale and have chance to win double U19 trophies......
    -Wolfsburg U19 aka Pejcinovic are fighting Hertha U19 for another Championship SF Spot.....although its Hertha's spot to lose.

    Last U19 Spot is between Bayer, S04 or Gladbach with edge to Bayer.

    so yeah these players are getting screwed over for stupid shit like Youth Trophies.
     
  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so the only Dortmund U19 player that is getting upped is the one who signed pro contract in 06 M Watjen, looks like he's in back to back 1st team squad. One would assume will make his pro debut this season at some point. If things get settled we could very well see him even get an XI.

    lets hope that the Watjen, Kabar, Brunner etc all make their 1BL debuts this season. Would cap off wonderful season after winning U17 Euro+U17 WC!!!!

    still good to see that with 04 M Pavlovic and 06 M Watjen we could very well see 2 next gen Ms breakthrough directly top 1BL clubs and Terzic is a Watjen fan too.

    And to think Watjen didn't go to U17 WC because he was busy with school, LULZ. So we beat Spain, Argentina, France back to back when Ouedraogo (injured in GS) and Watjen (school) both missed out. And now on track for both to breakthrough too, as Ouedraogo has already brokenthrough XI.
     
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  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    04 LB Rothe (on loan) scores his 3rd of season for 2BL Kiel for 1-0 lead vs HSV. He's now at 3 goals and 7 assists in 2BL, so already 10 goal contributions for a fullback.


    its massive match between 2 promotion hopefuls too.
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    according to WAZ+, 05 CF Mahmoud is headed to pro contract at 1BL Bochum soon enough. Getting raves reactions at the club itself.

    I recall during International break he actually scored and impressed in friendly with 1st team too.

    what also helps is that Bochum II is getting revival in 5th division. So this is likely gonna be a II+1st team focus next season IF he doesn't jump directly to 1st team.

    but sure there is NO wave of next gen CFs, LULZ.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
    they are all making progress for no reason but randomness!!!


    would make Mahmoud the 4th 05 CF with relevant pros besides Pejcinovic, Weiper, Torsiello.
     
  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    on 02 M Rohl of 1BL Freiburg.

    Freiburg's starter has sparked interest, especially in England
    Röhl: The plan with the million-dollar jewel

    U-21 national player Merlin Röhl (21) is one of the discoveries of this season and a hot stock in the Freiburg squad. It arouses interest, especially in England. This is the plan for the youngster.

    His strong performances in the current season have attracted numerous teams from home and abroad: Merlin Röhl.

    His solo run, crowned with his first Bundesliga goal, in the 3-1 defeat in Leipzig in November 2023 is an internet hit. But Merlin Röhl is anything but a one-hit wonder; the Freiburger is one of the discoveries of this season. There are two goals and four assists in 23 league games, one goal in eight Europa League appearances and two goals and one assist in seven appearances for the U-21 national team. Röhl has also quickly established himself there since September 2023 - because he has much more to offer than impressive scoring values for a central midfielder.

    Thanks to his dynamism and speed (top speed 34.9 km/h), the 1.91 meter man, who was signed from Ingolstadt for 2.9 million euros in 2022, can also be used variably offensively, as a ten, hanging point or in the half position. As an eighth player, he creates promising spaces through his attacks with the ball and deep runs, and is young and capable of development. "My dream is to be a box-to-box player," Röhl said in January 2023.

    Positional discipline, decision-making, defensive behavior, physical robustness, offensive headers - there is of course still a lot to improve for Röhl. But it is just as logical that his overall package has long since aroused interest from clubs at home and abroad, especially from England.

    The SC can now also say no
    Röhl is the next million-dollar jewel at SC, whose strategy also includes lucrative player sales. In 2023, Kevin Schade, with a record transfer of 25 million euros, and Mark Flekken (13 million) moved to Brentford, and in 2022 Nico Schlotterbeck (20 million) moved to BVB. Thanks to its strong sporting development and comfortable financial situation, the SC can now also say no to financially strong offers. Like Schade, who was lured by Brentford in the summer of 2022.

    And with Röhl? “At least one more year in Freiburg, that’s the plan,” says sports director Klemens Hartenbach. Even if he could never completely rule out anything in football, the discussions with Röhl and those around him were only about staying in 2024/25.

    Team atmosphere and the connection to Schuster
    No objection from the players. Röhl feels very comfortable at SC, appreciates the exceptionally good team atmosphere and, above all, that he maintains a good relationship with the new head coach Julian Schuster, as he does with Christian Streich. As a liaison coach, Schuster was a very important companion, especially during Röhl's complicated first year with injuries and setbacks.

    Röhl wants to continue to mature in his already important role. At a bigger club he would have to prove himself again as one of many in a tougher environment. This will probably only be an issue from 2025.
    https://www.kicker.de/roehl-der-plan-mit-dem-millionen-juwel-1016408/artikel
     
  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    2BL
    -02 AM/W Nebel (on loan) assisted the 3-2 Winning goal for KSC. Its his 7th assist of season too.
    https://streamin.me/v/29286320

    -05 AM/W Ndikom made his 2BL/pro debut for H96 as 17 min sub!!!


    so far 05s AM/W Debuts or breathrough looking like
    -1BL=Ibrahimovic (Serie A loan), Opitz, Komur, Raimund, Mladovenic (poached)
    -2BL=Wanner (on loan, also has 1BL caps), Ndikom, Popp, Pfaffenrot, Maza (also has 1BL caps), Ersungur (poached), Uzun (poached also CF), Megeed (semi-poached, yet to play competitive match)
    -3rd Liga=Krattenmacher (linked with Summer transfer), Sturm, Kallenbach, Etri
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    when it comes to CFs, I do think that 04-onwards is more promising than 02-03s. At end of day, when it comes to a position like CF one can actually early on filter players out.

    between the ones
    -who jump very early on+have relevant pro package/skillset to establish themselves in 1BL at some point
    vs
    -ones who are more likely late bloomers and might or might not ever make it to 1BL and if they did could easily end up as bench options. After all not everyone can become 1st choice.

    but looking at 02-03s,
    its interesting to see that 02 CF Galjen bagged a hat trick today in 4-3 W and now jumps to 19 goals in RL. Will end season with 20+ goals.

    02-03 CFs like Kuhinja (currently in 2BL), Galjen, Harres, M.Muller (has 1 1BL cap this season), Castelle (has 1 2BL cap this season), Flotho (has 1 2BL cap this season), Schmidt (2BL Summer Transfer), Rolke, Wollschlager, Naderi, Zahmel (on RL loan from 2BL), Otuali (3rd Liga), Schmid (Dutch 2nd loan), Sillah, Nischalke (3rd Liga), Hartwig (Belgian 2nd) etc

    these are the CFs that fit the 2nd category tbh.

    Galjen has the package that is well liked aka physique/height/heading etc to make it as a pro but he has deficits to his style of play aka technical skills and don't think if he fits Stuttgart's style either. Its why he's not seen as a top talent CF prospect but should still make his way into pro footy of 2BL-3rd Liga in Summer. One should assume that he's pushing for 2BL jump given his #s and physicality loving 2BL.At end of day, its hard to care too much about his dev, as he's German-Serb......LOL. Issue with dual CFs is longer they take to be relevant the less likely they will still even be options for Germany as moment they do anything could easily get poached.
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Picture #12=Faik Sakar
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    speaking of 02 CF Kuhinja, TM lists him as German-Bosnian....LOL I recall whe he was listed as German-Turk??? Is he Turkey or Bosnia??? Could also be both for all we know.

    but TM ties him as Esad Kuhinja's son who looks Bosnian.

    we seem to be producing some German-Bosnian CFs
    -02 Kunhinja=went Winter 2BL Transfer and scored on his debut
    -04 Japaur=1 goal off of double digits in RL. He has trained/friendlies with 1BL Augsburg 1st team. But Augsburg are in love with dumping every youth prospect on loan. So questionable he'll get any real chances. For loaning he likely has to sign pro contract 1st too.
    -04 Kojic=For some random reason went 5th division transfer in Winter......not sure why he's easily min RL potential.....already fast approaching double digits too.
    -04 Hadziavdic=was rated well when younger but then has spent like 2 years injured. More recently was back and played his 1st XI in RL and adult footy where he had assist in 2-2 D but seems like he might still have some fitness issues
    -07 Tubic=don't know much about him but looks to be doing well in U17. Poached by Bosnia too.

    its fact that Bosnia are interested in Japaur (has played friendlies in past for them), Kojic (I believe in interview he said he wanted Bosnia), Hadziadvic (player they ALWAYS wanted to poach but then got injured for 2 years. I believe he also indicated he leans towards Bosnia).

    haha, show me players from Balkan that don't lean towards bailing. I think these 3+Kuhinja are type once they play at better level and do something, expect poaching 100%. Bosnia is in long lines of countries with 0 issues with calling up 2BL players to SNT too. And they did poach 98-Demirovic from us too.


    I still laugh at how the duals in 04 CF Age Group are mostly same few countries.
    -USA=Downs, Imasuen, Ouro-Tagba (looks like Togo got him), Sanogo
    -Bosnia=Japaur, Kojic, Hadziadvic
    -Italy=Tresoldi, Marino (update on him fast approaching double digits in RL loan)
    -Nigeria=Okpala, Nwachukwu (destroyed by injuries)

    that's 11 players from 4 countries, LOL.
     
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  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Christian Wuck on U17 WC Squad
    -sees around 7 top talents from the squad of 20.
    -basically confirmed Ouedraogo and Brunner are two of those.
    Paris Brunner (18), for example, has great chances. The striker was already in BVB's professional squad in the current Bundesliga season and is still waiting for his first appearance. The negotiations for his first professional contract are stalling - also because Brunner makes one or two missteps in addition to space.

    Wück: “Paris is one that explores his limits. But we're looking for players who do something crazy on the pitch. We can’t achieve that if we give rigid rules.”



    lets ignore GKs. Who could the 7 even be????
    Ouedraogo, Brunner, Moerstedt, Darvich, Jeltsch.......these 5 seem like given. For last 2 would assume he's talking about Moreira+Harchaoui????

    from those 2/7 have already brokenthrough pro XIs too.


    also to be clear,
    -doesn't include all left out players whether fit or injured, only ones who were in squad. Even ones in squad, Kabar was unfit for like entire tourney as he came back from long term injury and jumped directly to U17 WC with 0 games prior. Its one of main reason to why Hennig was 1st choice LB at U17 WC. Kabar did end up scoring the winning PK in final vs France, LOL. Between Hennig+Kabar we looked to have some of most promising LBs at both U17 Euro (Kabar was 1st choice) and U17 WC (Hennig was 1st choice). But he's confirmed Dortmund 1st prospects. I think package wise he would fit Dortmund more than 04 LB Rothe tbh.
    -"top talents" is something clubs calls their 1st prospects too but in his case I believe he's talking about ones with high potential to make it big.
    -LOL lets be honest like almost entire squad has 1st prospects with pros anyways. Something that was confirmed by like every club individually.

    Its gonna be exicting to see dev/progress of 04-onwards players. Loads of potential in every position too.
     
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  19. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    So from top 05 talents we have seen Buchmann, Fritschi, Aseko, Weiper all miss a lot of the season, plus di Benedetto get ruled out long term after staring to breakthrough, Ulrich also missed a lot of games at the start of the season after surgery as did Maza.

    What I want next season is all of these guys to stay injury free.

    The big concern with the 2 Bayern guys is they can never seem to stay fit though. Both would have had good chances to make 1BL debut this season.
     
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  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Seimen, Raebiger, Neto, Suso, Schulz etc were all also delayed by injuries too. Sadly too many German youth are injury prone. Always annoying when so many are 1st prospects but delaying everything to injuries. Maza is lucky that Hertha/Dardai always wanted him in 1st team and that was the plan since Summer, so when back he jumped directly to 1st team. While others's clubs aren't as nice.

    yeah these guys need to stay injury free and breakthrough relevant pros next season. All the guys who are playing RL over U19 need to go upwards in Summer and go pro breakthrough.

    hope we don't have to write off Buchmann+Aseko would be damn shame as both are very talented players. Aseko could very well have brokenthrough like Pavlovic but 100% wasted his chance as Bayern will go spending crazy in Summer.
     
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  21. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -Stuttgart are A-Holes, they blocked di Benedetto+Ulrich in Jan for Dahoud and now reports that Dahoud isn't gonna be signed in Summer and is bailing.

    blocked their own youth for 0 good reason, typical German footy.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    -LOL on 02 CF Woltemade of 1BL Bremen, its + article but gist of it is enough
    (+) Nick #Woltemade was one of the best players in the #Werder victory against Stuttgart. Coach Ole #Werner raved about the offensive player afterwards and regretted his departure


    and where is Woltemade moving to......Stuttgart, LULZ.

    -on 06 CB Jeltsch who is XI in 2BL FCN.


    [​IMG]
     
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  22. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The 06 team seemed to have no real weak spots, you can see players in pretty much every position with pro potential.

    In terms of elite potential would definitely rate Jeltsch, Ouedraogo, Brunner, Moerstedt & Darvich in that bracket. Several others have good first team prospects, although in Hennig & Kabar's cases it might be at a different club as Bayern and Dortmund as we know are shit at integrating.
     
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  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yeah the no real weak spots is main reason we won 2 tourneys. Most age groups have a hole in 1-2 places and those holes are big enough to not win. 06 is rare age group with 0 holes. I think 05 is also like this just shame we never ever play with best possible squad if we did we would wreck almost every team, LOL.

    I think for 06s biggest question marks are guys like Hennig+Ruger (Ruger only made team due to Watjen being busy with school) aka Bayern, Osawe at Leipzig and Ramsak......really Leipzig, he thinks transfer there is smart??? Will end up on Summer 2025 loan......

    Hennig is gonna waste his time at Bayern, shame he extended this season too.....whereas Kabar, its wait and see. TONS of top clubs in Europe want him, Dortmund want him to sign pro contract. He actually fits Dortmund's style of play with his phyisque/speed+technique. Physically could already play pro cough 3rd Liga Dortmund II cough. If Dortmund was smart they sign pro contract and up him to II in Summer with 1st chances here and there aka have a plan. Also Dortmund could end up with irrelevant matches if 5th CL spot is confirmed so could make debut this season. Dortmund could be sooooo much better if they actually used II properly so then jump to 1BL-2BL would be small......
     
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL WTF is happening between Schalke and Hoffenheim

    Schalke poached 07 CF Tubic, the same guy I mentioned in my German-Bosnian CF post.


    Schalke also poached 07 CB Pfeiffer from Hoffenheim too and looks to be seen with 1st prospects.


    meanwhile Hoffenheim poaches 07 CB Penda from S04 U17, LOL
    Sky Info: Schalke's U17 captain Maxime Ndong Penda is moving to @tsghoffenheim
    in the summer. The documents have already been signed. The IV will initially receive a development contract, before this is converted into a professional contract on his 18th birthday. Juventus asked in the winter, now he's going to TSG. Free transfer.


    looks like S04 are annoyed as Penda is seen as one of their more interesting Academy players.



    interesting to note that Pfeiffer+Penda have 0 DFB Call ups. Curious to see how they dev as both looking like they have pro prospects but ignored by DFB.
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    on topic of this
    -who jump very early on+have relevant pro package/skillset to establish themselves in 1BL at some point
    vs
    -ones who are more likely late bloomers and might or might not ever make it to 1BL and if they did could easily end up as bench options. After all not everyone can become 1st choice.

    Long post,
    I'm only posting from career progress+them showing themselves at level but the players who have shown themselves in 1st category looking like. This is ONLY based on current and previous seasons. Others will get chances in future, so duh its not 100% list.

    By Age Group, who are the candidates for this looking like.
    -02=Beier, Woltemade, Asllani (poached), Scherhant
    Beier and Woltemade have already confirmed this and neither is leaving 1BL. In fact Beier is linked with top clubs including 1BL champ Bayer while Woltemade is headed to Stuttgart are headed for CL next season.

    Asllani pre-loan aka last season in his 10 1BL caps, 100% showed that he potential for 1BL just missing that finishing and that game time in XI. Too bad for him got injured as he was getting better and better.

    Scherhant has shown himself last season for Hertha in 1BL that he has 1BL potential and is regular in their matchday squad in 2BL too. Even impressed in friendlies vs 1BL and EPL. There is reason why he's always linked with EPL clubs but that's stupid transfer. Should breakthrough Hertha XI 1st more regularly.

    -03=Gedikli (poached), Matanovic (poached), Kastanaras

    Matanovic having breakout 2BL season on loan. Package wise he has EVERYTHING to make it in 1BL too. Gedikli has been slowed down by injury last season and this season but he too has the package that would work in 1BL (he did get bunch of Bayer caps too and got praise by the club just issue that they don't integrate...so he bailed) but needs to establish himself in Turkish 1st, 3 goals in all competition this season isn't too bad given his issues. Kastanaras if he didn't have any 1BL prospects wouldn't have any 1BL XI and caps, he has chance to go 2BL with Ulm next season as the club is on track for promotion. But package wise he wouldn't be out of place in 1BL, just needs to establish himself first, so might need another few years maybe.

    -04=Moukoko, Downs, Topp, Tresoldi, Ansah, Copado
    Moukoko already confirmed this.

    Downs, Koln 100% see him as having 1BL package one of players for full integration too and has even scored too, looks to be more regular in matchday squad too. Topp is having his breakthrough season in 2BL for S04, already looking like S04's best CF too and package wise he would fit 1BL too. Tresoldi having breakout season in 2BL, has attracted lots of top clubs+higher interest. Ansah is still raw but has potential, package wise is something 1BL likes too. When Paderborn signed him to pro contract they even called him one of most promising 04 CFs in Germany too and that numerous clubs wanted him too. Smart to have stayed where he's breakingthrough XI. Copado has 1 1BL cap from Bayern and did like 2 preseasons and bunch of Winter camps in past too, numerous 2BL clubs wanted him in Winter but choose Austrian 1st instead where he's trying to breakthrough. When signed by his club they mentioned how he's one of most promising German strikers of his age group (not my words but Austrians). Although for him one has to ask whether long term he'll be a CF or more AM/W? I think it'll depend on where he goes in future post Austria, if he goes back to Germany, he's likely to get shafted out of CF, LOL.

    on topic of 04s, there could be much more there too.
    Meier of 3rd Liga Sandhausen who's already at 5 goals is a player that tons of clubs wanted to poach from 2BL Magdeburg but he rejected pro contracts from 1BL-2BL clubs because likely would have ended up in RL/II and he was right as he jumped directly to 3rd Liga. When signed by Sandhausen they claimed he's one of most promising 04 CFs in Germany too. Package wise he's shown that the relevant pros is something he could do in future, would assume 2BL first. Imasuen made his debut for Bremen at got praise by Fritz+Ole Werner for his qualities too, time will tell what next. Likely Bremen II in RL promotion next season is next up and depending on how he does there as he's destroyed the 5th division this season could open door for more. Ouro-Tagba (poached), 3rd Liga 1860 Munich are desperate for him to extend and at same time numerous 2BL clubs are interested in him which looks confirmed (if he has this much interest, curious to how much Meier has). Package wise he too would work in relevant pros.

    I'm curious to see where the B.Winter, Sanne (Shrimp CF!!!), Japaur/Ehrlich all stack up in terms of next season. Sanne is on track for 20+ goals in RL, while B.Winter has pro contract but his club is gonna screw him over as they will get 1BL promotion and will likely never get chance him and Japaur are both 1 away from double in RL. More RL or 2BL-3rd Liga jump.

    -05=Weiper, Pejcinovic, Mahmoud, Torsiello.
    Weiper has already confirmed this but needs to do it again after long term injury.

    Pejcinovic based on his 1BL caps+1st friendlies and his package will make his way into 1BL. Constantly gets high praise by everyone at club and they've rejected him going on loan in past 2 Transfer Markets open. Torsiello might be one of the least rated players from entire list but his club Darmstadt are huge fans of his. When in 2BL he was fixed in squad and when promoted to 1BL, still fixed in squad and this is a club with no II. Mahmoud package wise would fit 1BL and he has impressed Bochum in training+Friendlies, likely to breakthrough soon enough. Some think conceivable could make debut this season too.

    -06=Brunner, Moerstedt, Alaoui (poached), Ramsak
    Brunner has shown his potential in 1st friendlies+training+1 3rd Liga cap. I mean Terzic even confirmed that he excelled in 1st training back when he was suspended in October.

    Moerstedt has impressed in every 1st team friendly+training. The 1st team coach Matarazzo has been singing his praise from Summer 2023-present and that they have plan to integrate him.

    Alaoui, Frankfurt believes that he has the package to establish himself as a pro. He also impressed whenever he played with 1st team too even scoring on debut.

    Ramsak has trained with Bayern 1st team but getting Summer poaching from Leipzig with pro contract. So 2 top clubs were fighting over him........but 2/2 are shit at integration. Leipzig praised him highly for his qualities etc. Just issue that they aren't integration club.

    -07=Stange, Izekor.
    Stange a player tons of clubs want to poach but extended with 2BL HSV who seem as having 1st prospects, was very close to debut which is likely to happen once HSV are confirmed out of promotion spots. Izekor always very close to Bayer 1st team where he made his pro debut and almost scored. Alonso/Rolfes praised him for his physique/skills etc. one would assume will make his 1BL debut this season.




    the list of
    Beier, Woltemade, Asllani, Scherhant, Gedikli, Matanovic, Kastanaras, Moukoko, Downs, Topp, Tresoldi, Ansah, Copado, Weiper, Pejcinovic, Mahmoud, Torsiello, Brunner, Moerstedt, Alaoui, Ramsak, Stange, Izekor+Meier/Imasuen/Ouro-Tagba

    that's 23 players+3 and these are players who are jumping to pros super fast and breakingthrough as well. Not ones who go rot in RL for years and years and years, LOL.

    with so far 4/23 are poached. I don't expect Kastanaras will play Germany long term either. When it comes to duals, would think Tresoldi, Weiper, Pejcinovic, Brunner are ones we need to be sure to keep long term. Others like Copado (Spain)+Stange (Brazil)=LOL, they ain't getting poached.

    Beier, Woltemade, Moukoko, Weiper are players who seem to have basically already sealed 1BL deal. Players like Matanovic, Topp, Tresoldi, Pejcinovic, Brunner, Moerstedt are ones who seem to knocking hard on 1BL door. Although conceivable that Topp+Tresoldi stay another year in 2BL to fully establish themselves before making 1BL jump. Sometimes jumping too early screws you over. A lot at S04 are worried Topp will get poached as only 2025 contract.

    Asllani, Scherhant, Gedikli, Kastanaras, Downs, Ansah, Copado, Mahmoud, Torsiello, are ones who might need more time before 1BL jump. Downs+Mahmoud+Torsiello is due to topic of their clubs are candidates to go down to 2BL, which isn't a bad thing as it could make it easier to breakthrough and be fixed in matchday squads 100% and jump to XIs too more regularly than if in 1BL. Whoever's club survive could have 1BL chances next season. Torsiello's Darmstadt are unlikely to survive.

    While Alaoui, Ramsak, Stange, Izekor more wait and see as still mostly youth club players.

    DUH not everyone listed will make 1BL 100% even long term but this is more about package, potential and what they've shown at adult. And also about as mentioned ones who are jumping to pros super fast+what clubs themselves think. And tbc, none of what I've posted is what I THINK, LOL. I just posted objective post about topic, nothing subjective. Nowhere did I post who I rate or don't rate etc. Or who I think will make it or won't make it etc. I'll leave all that to time will tell. Also important to mention that 05-onwards is OBVIOUSLY not complete list. And yes bunch of 06-07s have gotten praised by their clubs and seen as 1st prospects but didn't include any of that as still youth club players only. Its only about this moment in time. Why did I list some extra 04s and not 02-03s, simply because at this point, its clear who is category 1 and who is category 2 for 02-03 CFs. Although would like to be surprised by 02-03s who aren't mentioned though. Whereas 04s, they are only playing their 1st post U19 season this season. Also Jumping to 3rd Liga quickly means can only go upwards and skip a level unlike the ones in RL who could end up in 3rd Liga. If one plays RL and then 3rd Liga you will end up playing every level just to reach 1BL.......if ever.....


    at end of day, what's interesting is in terms of package it looks pretty interesting. How many from the 23+3 can one BITCH HARD waaaaa X or Y is NOT a CF waaaaaaa, LULZ. Honestly not many can one even argue that.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

    what's interesting to note is who from this list isn't rated well Domestically at MIN? Can't think of anyone outside of Torsiello not sure if only his club rates him or if he has more fans out there, LOL. And then from this list X amount are actually were well rated Internationally too and then from that X amount some even go as far as being seen as some of most promising CFs or their age groups in Europe too.
     
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