General Football Thread - Any other business

Discussion in 'England' started by Marcho Gamgee, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  2. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    So do we think he'd turn down the England senior job too? Not disputing your point at all but I didn't see that comment and it's quite rare for a coach to only want to remain in high-level development football.
     
  3. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    We'll have to wait and see. I maybe totally wrong but I think after the England job is sorted there will be a fair bit of movement in the headcoach/manager market. Remember both Cooper and Potter don't have Jobs either.
     
  4. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    I have no idea, but we know for a fact he's turned down the Ireland job already (so I think its pretty presumptuous to think he's suddenly going to take it in September) and as mentioned he was quoted as saying the below

     
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  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    A lot of league jobs will be sorted before England. Particularly if the FA undergoes leadership changes in the wake of the Replay’s debacle.
     
  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021

    I can’t see many of those happening.
     
  7. KHSAFC

    KHSAFC Member

    Sunderland
    England
    Feb 12, 2023
    I wouldn’t even entertain arguments over player welfare from the premier league if I was the EFL.They couldn’t care less. They just want to increase their profits by playing more continental and international games. It’s pure greed.

    EFL teams play a 46 games season, plus two cup competitions (3 for league 1 and 2) and possible play off games. The resources they have are not even comparable to that of the premier league yet they do not complain nearly as much. Premier league teams also have multi million pound academies which they do not use.
     
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I wonder what the Europe playing Pl clubs would do if push come to shove and they have to play a replay within 48 hours of a European match. Would they accept playing so close together with full adware’s or prioritise one and play an entirely youth squad.
     
  9. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  10. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  11. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #961 Fireburn47, Apr 19, 2024
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  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #962 Fireburn47, Apr 19, 2024
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    Apparently replays in round 1 and 2 have been scrapped to fit in more EFL Trophy matches.

    It all stems from the fact it was all meant to be in one massive deal but the PL clubs voted against Masters plan for the New Deal and the FA - having a fixed deadline - has brought it’s part in without the the rest of it.
     
  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


    Pep doing all he can to make the EFL push for extending FA cup replays with his winging.
     
  14. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    What's going on with the Saudi League then? Haven't heard much in the way of big transfers mooted for next window.
     
  15. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    Back in the real world, whilst Pep cries about fixture congestion, Gateshead have just played 4 games in a week to reach the National League play-offs... only to now get kicked out by the EFL as their OWN council will not sanction a guarantee that they will remain at their ground for the next 10 years!
     
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  16. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain

    Do we have the biggest clowns in Europe manning VAR?
     
  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #967 Fireburn47, Apr 21, 2024
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    No because (most) offside’s are objective decisons. It’s not a subjective decision like a penalty. All goals are checked and if it’s says offside the goal has to be disallowed - there is no discretion in the rules. The decision was not incorrect based on the rules. Every countries VAR would have given the same decision. There has been many offsides where nobody has initially noticed it (Inckuding rival players and coaches) but this was not one of them either.

    I imagine the semi automated offside would also have disallowed this goal.
     
  18. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    No it's crap all over Europe, I'm not using that pixelated photo presumably taken off a TV as evidence of anything.
     
  19. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    If we had semi-automated offsides maybe but can't be that objective when it's so close and a person is responsible for drawing the lines. That looks as level two players can be and at that point you can freeze the frame a nanosecond earlier or later and can change the decision entirely. When it's that tight there's no reason not to just call it level because you can manipulate the decision either way.

    You can't say every country's VAR would give the same decision when the decision can be changed so easily on the time the frame is frozen and how the person draws the lines. A player can move over ten CM more or less offside based on a 0.02 second freeze frame either side.
     
  20. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    There is an exact frame decisions are based on I think.
     
  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I just can’t stand these offside calls when it’s so tight and offside because someone’s nose is a toe nails length offside! Surely they can come up with a better way like it being obvious with the naked eye the player is offside. If it looks tight and you have check and double check then the benefit of doubt should come into it imo.
     
  22. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Like the line drawing the freezing of the frame is done manually. They've demonstrated it on live TV numerous times. Not only is that susceptible to human error but it can almost never be done at the exact time.
     
  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    That would require a rewriting of the law of the game and how Offside is determined. There has been movements but it takes time and they would have to decide what the rule says. Having it say something like the naked eye wouldn’t be particularly clearer what with semi automated offside in international use and in the PL from nest season.
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I wonder if they will change the rule that means yellows are reset for penalty shootouts
     
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021

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